FT, "the five-year-old quite seriously uses arguments like “you’re just blind,” at the start of discussions and not understanding why after this they call him an asshole."

https://i.imgur.com/Dk2QGQG.png

mwDeus, aww look at the old man trying to make a meme
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mwDeus:

You so short-minded that instead of passing by when someone criticizes your work, you get offended and start getting personal, and cry like a child, instead of, at last, giving arguments on the essence of what was said and not about person.

"You're the one dissecting the technical aspects and being completely non-objective. Then you start crying, using bad words, and trying to look cool creating a meme, The real meme is you.

FT, https://i.imgur.com/TlMzBQI.png

You so short-minded that instead of passing by when someone criticizes your work, you get offended and start getting personal, and cry like a child, instead of, at last, giving arguments on the essence of what was said and not about person.

The thesis was that there is no need to drag “professional achievements” into such disputes, and not that someone is cooler than you. Didn't you get it?

mwDeus, I'm not the one insulting cause his brain is too short to thing in another words.

FT, Don't cry, honey.

mwDeus:

No, you didn't understand.

You're an asshole trying to constantly appeal to your own experience, I just showed you that these arguments don't make any fucking sense.---------
And so again you start this stupid game of "Achievements". "I won awards in a competition with two half-dead competitors last year".

Is it a big achievement to win a competition on a site where out of literally two thousand active users there are only 50 left?


And what? what the fuck is the point? You are now making yourself an even bigger poser than I could ever allow myself to be. All this pride in the pile of unwatchable crap in the section for beginners, pride in the “content” produced on an amateur forum.

What kind of nonsense is this?

As AMV editor I took my last nomination in a year when you wouldn’t even be on the shortlist, I repeat - stop this degenerative ad hominem.

You're just a closed-minded person. Look how my comments have left in evidence the poor class and lack of culture you have. Very humble of you to say the things you did about this page.

Show something of yours, if you dare. If you have the intellect to withstand criticism, show an AMV you made. Your words seem as empty as your brain; there is nothing more than hateful comments in your "opinions." Is that what you teach to your students, what a good teacher.

FT:

mwDeus, Yeah, I get the point

No, you didn't understand.

You're an asshole trying to constantly appeal to your own experience, I just showed you that these arguments don't make any fucking sense.
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FT:

For your information, last year I won a category at this Con, and I have more recognitions under my belt. What have you achieved? As an AMV editor I ask, this is the topic at the end.

And so again you start this stupid game of "Achievements". "I won awards in a competition with two half-dead competitors last year".

Is it a big achievement to win a competition on a site where out of literally two thousand active users there are only 50 left?

FT:

For your information, last year I won a category at this Con, and I have more recognitions under my belt. What have you achieved? As an AMV editor I ask, this is the topic at the end.

And what? what the fuck is the point? You are now making yourself an even bigger poser than I could ever allow myself to be. All this pride in the pile of unwatchable crap in the section for beginners, pride in the “content” produced on an amateur forum.

What kind of nonsense is this?

As the editor of AMV, I received my last nomination that year, in which, due to competition, you would not even be included in the shortlist. I repeat - stop this degenerative ad hominem stream.

mwDeus, Yeah, I get the point—you’re old and you have more experience, but I'm young and in AMV competitions, which is the main theme here, I have done more than you, even though you started editing six years before I was born. Let me congratulate you for being that old.

By the way, your opinion doesn’t have any impact. As you said, this is an amateur competition, and if this were professional, I’m sure yours would be one of those rare and toxic commentary that no one cares about.

For your information, last year I won a category at this Con, and I have more recognitions under my belt. What have you achieved? As an AMV editor I ask, this is the topic at the end.

If you want to debate about competing in a real cinematography competition, yeah, maybe you have more experience, but I’m younger, and it’s only a matter of time until I start getting involved in them. Have you received a nomination in Berlin? An outstanding ovation at Cannes? You talk like an oscar winner but your words have no backrest.

I want to clarify that I’m responding to you with the same respect you showed me, so there is nothing against other people here. I respect AMV news and the Russian's, but you sir, reflect your lack of class in the comments.

ScorpionsUltd Whisper Of The Beast is a great classic, and masterpiece of AMVs, please don't compare my one month editing (with many breaks) video with it, there is no sense.

I'm Humble, with the Humbles, I give what people give to me. So give some respect and get the same, cause talking with you is going nowhere. At the end the art is subjetive in its form (Non its technique)

FT, No one owes nothing to nobody.

Your audience rated you work as 3.5 points, and you didn’t even get into the top five on one of the weakest BK. This is reality.

Just like the fact that education does not matter at all in an amateur online competition. And you committed a great stupidity by starting to appeal to this without using any other theses.

FT:

, but unfortunately, this is a contest, and you should evaluate the technique.

I don’t understand, is it hard for you to read or what? I rated your work professionally - mediocre. You're making an "Alternate" story with mediocre synchronization and shitty color correction 20 FCN YEARS after the work of ScorpionsUltd Whisper Of The Beast and you make it literally worse and completely bland, what are you hoping for?

Unfortunately FOR YOU, your work was not appreciated at this competition. Humble yourself.

FT:

As for the audience, let me clarify: my audience is probably bigger than yours and understands the concept and storytelling easily. Maybe you have some attention problems, who knows.

No, let me explain to you - I started making videos six years after you were born. I have more activity under ONE clip than under all your works that not from the section for beginners.

And of the two of us, only I have so far participated not only in amateur competitions, but also in professional ones too.

Therefore, please, stop using this crappy ad hominem, dud. Imagine if I started the conversation with this?

This is so childish, I even once had a conversation with one of my students (I ask them to make clips in editing lessons) “You are wrong, because my friends understood the plot” - yes, you little fool can boast of this in front of your Mom, save me from this crap.
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Strannick610:

(это современный практикующий режиссёр, а не старый пердун насмотревшийся Тарковского, между прочим 3-х часовой черно-белый фильм о Андрее Рублёва смотрится увлекательней чем супергеройское кинцо от Марвел).

Это современный практикующий режиссёр говорит вообще про другое, про то что никак со мной не спорит, и если ты меня спросишь, то я тебе так-же скажу.

Он говорит о том, что если режик снимает кино для себя, чтобы сделать высказывание, которое, по его мнению важно, то, естественно, желания зрителя в той или иной степени уходят на второй план.

Чё он говорит? Ты хоть слышал?

"Зритель не должен иметь значение в том смысле в котором это ограничивает художника в полноте высказывания, если художник заинтерисован в том, чтобы донести до зрителя мысль честно он чувствами зрителя руководствоваться не должен... Это то что отличает коммерчаское кино, пытается угадать желание зрителя в основной своей массе... авторское кино такой цели сбебе не ставит..."

Но тогда чаще всего ты забываешь про популярность и остаёшься просто режем не для всех.

Причём там сидит Кантемир и честно говорит, что ему зритель нахер не упёрся.

Я тесноту Кантемира разбирал ещё во ВГИКе со своим мастером, это чисто фестивальное кино, как-раз для тех кому Тарковский дороже жизни. Хочешь в таком духе вести разговор? Ок. Тогда не понятно причём тут объективность.

И не понятно как у вас двоих в голове уживается вот эта вот херня:

FT:

Maybe you're one of those indie fans who criticize the industry,

Ведь это аргументы буквально укурков-иньди мейкеров. Коим и Быков и Балагов, безусловно, являются.

FT:

I can understand now why you are just a teacher.

А с каких собственно пор, учителем стало быть зазорно или плохо?о.о

mwDeus:

Films are made for the audience, if your audience does not understand you, then it is not he who is not ready, but you just did a bad job as a director. This is the basis, this is the rule.

Или не должен - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhrXxyGg1zU (это современный практикующий режиссёр, а не старый пердун насмотревшийся Тарковского, между прочим 3-х часовой черно-белый фильм о Андрее Рублёва смотрится увлекательней чем супергеройское кинцо от Марвел).

mwDeus, I agree with you from the viewer's perspective, but unfortunately, this is a contest, and you should evaluate the technique. Cinema is meant to be cinematic. Maybe you're one of those indie fans who criticize the industry, so I can understand now why you are just a teacher.

"Films are made for the audience" Yes, of course, but again, this is a contest. Here, you should be objective. As for the audience, let me clarify: my audience is probably bigger than yours and understands the concept and storytelling easily. Maybe you have some attention problems, who knows.

Грац всех победителей! И напутствия всем остальным авторам в будущих конах!

Кон слабоват по мне оказался, очень попахивало тенденциями тик-тока с клипами протяженностью 2 минуты лишь бы в минимальную длину успеть. Но! Очень порадовало что вернулись несколько наших ребят с новыми работами, за Альтера особенно порадовался, порвал фан без конкуренции (Скорп, ну ты че, проголосовать даже не мог что штрафы словил?? )!

Все няшки, не ругайтесь в коментариях^^ Особенно с Буржуями, у них тоже идет видимое вымирание амв как движения, даже сильнее чем у нас

FT:

I think you're blind then, you can say you don't like my work, but if you don't notice the cinematographic style youre wrong.

as a viewer I dont give a supernano fuck about cinematographic style of you work because its made for mental masturbation and not for the audience.

Do you think anyone is really interested in once again watching the most banal story, also with a template narrative and mediocre synchronization? For the thousandth time already?

I’m almost 30 years old, over all these years I’ve seen such stories, I won’t lie, thousands, literally my student is now doing a similar story for his diploma, which I’m not delighted with.

The cinematic style has long been neither an advantage nor even something unusual.

you did everything to make the story understandable, yes, but you literally did nothing to make it engaging. This is why you are in 8th place, and the penguin is in first, although you made approximately the same edits with compositing.

FT:

About the Plot, is simple as following the visuals, and about more, cinmeatography is not only a plot, you said youre a director, well a director must know, is about the exeqution not just the plot, for example "Interestelar" plot is complicated compared with the "The Godfather" one, but the godfather is a best movie cause its cinematography itself. but maybe "The Godfather" is also banal for you.

I am against formalism in cinema. Do you know what formalism is? If for three hours you show me just a “Stylish”, “Cinematic” canvas, devoid of any interesting plot or action, then I will become bored in the first hour, by the second I will want to leave the hall, and by the third I will want to kill the director.

I don’t know why you cited these two films as an example - whether you were told about this at a lecture or something else. But this is highly speculative.

It’s like in Russia now everyone compares new cinema with Tarkovsky and literally shits with rainbows and tries to present the matter in such a way that literally nothing can hold a candle to Tarkovsky. In fact, we are talking about the prejudice of a bunch of old farts who are not able to perceive new cinema simply because of their sense of self-importance.

Films are made for the audience, if your audience does not understand you, then it is not he who is not ready, but you just did a bad job as a director. This is the basis, this is the rule.

Basically, your job as a director is not to make it “Cinematic”, but to simply tell the story well and interestingly, that’s what they hire you for. Everything else is mental masturbation, and the director’s attempt to pull the blanket over himself, presenting everything as if art itself is essential. But this is not true, art is subjective and some will find the godfather magical, while others will consider him boring crap, show it to a person who is not immersed in the context and he will tell you that the film is just empty, or will not even understand what it is about because "Art" is not essential itself in a philosophical sense.

mwDeus:

I will say more conservatively so as not to fall under moderation.

Here, you’re not the only one who has an education, I actually graduated from the director’s degree a long time ago and am already teaching students myself. Perhaps you yourself could be my student.

You cannot teach anyone anything, because you yourself are still doing very banal things. If you compare your plot and storytelling, it is indistinguishable from my students.

And just if I have to choose between a banal story clip and a good spinal cord cut without meaning, then I would rather choose a technical cut. So the places were distributed quite fairly.

And I don’t understand DiDox claims, because his action just came out even more banal and insipid, just a mess.

For me, everything turned out quite objective.

I think you're blind then, you can say you don't like my work, but if you don't notice the cinematographic style youre wrong.

About the Plot, is simple as following the visuals, and about more, cinmeatography is not only a plot, you said youre a director, well a director must know, is about the exeqution not just the plot, for example "Interestelar" plot is complicated compared with the "The Godfather" one, but the godfather is a best movie cause its cinematography itself. but maybe "The Godfather" is also banal for you.

Leberate:

Кстати АДМИН, Как блин это работает? Почему выделив текст в одном коментарии и нажав кнопку цитаты на другом происходит такая фигня?

все время же так было, на чье облачко цитаты нажмешь, тот ник и подставится, вроде все логично, а почему именно так сделано, ответ по моему очевиден - тупо проще, чтобы не трахаться с кодом сайта

а что некоторые не глядя куда-то тыкаю, ну пусть смотрят, делов то

Risen404, ну ок, сделаю.

Dream of a mad fox, та хоть тоже, что тебе кинул недавно, мне кажется твоя чернуха как раз кстати придётся :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0qmBZxWokk

Risen404:

Мало музла накидывал что ли... :(

ааа, бро. Делай заказ, на что хочешь клипец

Dream of a mad fox:

А мне можно будет что-нибудь под пашу техника сделать?

Вот я тебе что... Мало музла накидывал что ли...

Risen404:

жду тебя кстати на следующий бк :)

А мне можно будет что-нибудь под пашу техника сделать?

Abixisi:

https://i.imgur.com/XDLwf1q.png

Кстати АДМИН, Как блин это работает? Почему выделив текст в одном коментарии и нажав кнопку цитаты на другом происходит такая фигня?

IceMoon:

https://media1.tenor.com/m/yqSkZ2y09UMAAAAd/salty-salt.gif

Yes, I could have done better. It's just that for this topic, my focus on music and lines has become more paranoid. Although this work is essentially everything I have learned, I didn't choose a simpler and lighter way to present it. If you're feeling sick to some extent, it's probably because I found it and wanted to express part of it. But the reality turned out to be beyond my expectations, and I would have decided to cancel my account and try something else.

Dream of a mad fox:

кст поздравляю с блестящим выступлением на коне. Жаль что не взял топ один, я плачу

https://i.imgur.com/XDLwf1q.png :D
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Dream of a mad fox, жду тебя кстати на следующий бк

Risen404:

Деус+Лимон

факт
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Risen404, кст поздравляю с блестящим выступлением на коне. Жаль что не взял топ один, я плачу

Dream of a mad fox:

Блин, я срач пропустил.

Да мне кажется что если это была не комбинация Деус+Лимон, то мало чего интересного мы пропустили... Х)))

okhostok:

Давайте жить дружно

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAFeubG7Fl0
Блин, я срач пропустил.
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MesoGear:

Самый душный кон

Звучит шикарно. Я "за".

предлагаю назвать - Самый душный кон

okhostok:

Давайте жить дружно

Нооовыыыый коооон!)

Chono, и да и нет. главное чтоб кон не был с душной тематикой и ограничениями. было бы клево

Chono:

приколи, пишешь чтоб все не ругались и были более мирными к людям, и тебя трут по результату. А квот тебя не трут. Фантастика.

под горячую руку попал

Leberate:

я уже клип сделал. Нехт кон давайте

Романтишный надеюсь? Называется май вижн и по ZZZ?

Sintara:

следующий кон :)

Death_Kn1ght:

е некст кон придумывать ^_^

я уже клип сделал. Нехт кон давайте
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Chono, мир в не закона, забылчто ль)

MesoGear, приколи, пишешь чтоб все не ругались и были более мирными к людям, и тебя трут по результату. А квот тебя не трут. Фантастика.

Тупо сегодняшние реалии.

уже все подчистил, ну значит все бугурты останутся лишь в наших воспоминаниях...

ну че, ждем теперь реакт на бека от сиара, не зря же он тут подозрительно маячил в последние дни

FT:

Also, conceptually, at least for me, since I studied cinematography, I can teach you how to create good storytelling.

I will say more conservatively so as not to fall under moderation.

Here, you’re not the only one who has an education, I actually graduated from the director’s degree a long time ago and am already teaching students myself. Perhaps you yourself could be my student.

You cannot teach anyone anything, because you yourself are still doing very banal things. If you compare your plot and storytelling, it is indistinguishable from my students.

And just if I have to choose between a banal story clip and a good spinal cord cut without meaning, then I would rather choose a technical cut. So the places were distributed quite fairly.

And I don’t understand DiDox claims, because his action just came out even more banal and insipid, just a mess.

For me, everything turned out quite objective.

Chono:

Да всё норм, мы все вокруг привыкли уже.

Да, давайте некст кон придумывать ^_^

okhostok:

Ну наши жизни не так то длинны, зачем ссорить с кем-либо, назвать других неадекватами, идиотами, лузерами и т.д. я не понимаю... Давайте жить дружно, нам итак не хватает время; до дня который мы умрем не так долго осталось.

Мы все поняли. Да. Запускай следующий кон

Ну наши жизни не так то длинны, зачем ссорить с кем-либо, назвать других неадекватами, идиотами, лузерами и т.д. я не понимаю... Давайте жить дружно, нам итак не хватает время; до дня который мы умрем не так долго осталось.

Мне не нравиться модерировать те или иные срачы, но с этого момента буду чистить все переходы на личности, пользователь Robosu забанен на неделю за расизма.
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All posts containing personal attacks will be deleted, Robosu is banned for a week for racism.

Death_Kn1ght:

Извиняюсь что я неадекват, видимо нервы, возраст, зомбоящик ;(

Да всё норм, мы все вокруг привыкли уже.