Победители AMVNews: Big Contest 2024

олух царя небесного написал(а):
французская выпечка

Я надеюсь что я соберусь с силами, так что можешь готовить место для багета :)
https://i.imgur.com/nHZgWag.png

Risen404 написал(а):
без хлеба

вроде как на анонсируемом конкурсе будет французская выпечка. Посмотрим)

олух царя небесного, да ты просто воображалку поднапрягай, о котиках подумай, о лолях подумай, и возможно найдёшь что отметить в клипах. Ибо просто молча сидеть это как за столом с мужиками есть борщ без хлеба - такое просто не поймут мужики. В нашем мире есть неписанные правила. ^^

Risen404
А что тут можно сказать? Крокодил не ловится, Не растёт кокос!
https://i.imgur.com/RfoFnkU.jpg
Даж оценки не ставятся...

олух царя небесного, почему АФК лицо в тарелку сидишь? :3

VovanKoperativ написал(а):
(Скорп, ну ты че, проголосовать даже не мог что штрафы словил?? )!

Ахахаха) да настроения не было просто, тем более зачем голосовать если клип всё равно будет на дне, это очевидно было.

MesoGear написал(а):
он походу про реакт сиара на кон, ждем

Если честно, то АМВ уже столько лет, столько золота уже вышло, что что-то новое придумать довольно сложно. По этому такие форматы это даже хорошо. Потому что просто смотреть АМВ уже просто не интересно.


UPD: Сиар, если ты меня читаешь - скажи что я злой мудак и затравил бедного буржуя, когда сделаешь реакт.

mwDeus написал(а):
А есть такие видосики?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx7rclDsr-Y

mwDeus написал(а):
А есть такие видосики?

не особо понял о чем падре, но помниться на спейсе кто-то пилил клип из конкурсных клипов, эдакий итоговый хайлайт, на ньюсе такого сроду не было

upd: все догнал, он походу про реакт сиара на кон, ждем

padre написал(а):
а видосики, которые после конкурса выкладывают,

А есть такие видосики?

Я в шоке, что прошел в финал, но было весело! Всем спасибо, больше половины клипов не смотрел - погляжу позже, поставлю оценки)

altermann написал(а):
Жаль ты не участвовал, хотелось бы с тобой в фане посоревноваться.

Да фиг знает. Сложилось такое впечатление, что в последнее время тут больше заходят не сами клипы, а видосики, которые после конкурса выкладывают, где кто-то кто ничего не сделал на конкурс ху***ит тех, кто решил поддержать конкурс и что-то сделать. Ну и ок, я времени кучу сэкономлю.)

padre написал(а):
Победителей поздравляю, хотя клипы не смотрел.

Ну мой то посмотри по братски.
Жаль ты не участвовал, хотелось бы с тобой в фане посоревноваться.

Победителей поздравляю, хотя клипы не смотрел.

Под результатами классическое недовольство и нытьё, как обычно. Хотя я никогда этого особенно не понимал. На том же JE один человек хрен пойми кто решает попадёшь ты в финал или нет. Вот не понравилось ей, что у тебя в клипе грудь у девушки трясётся, не толерантно. Всё, гуляй, рванина. На БК же голосует много людей сразу: жюри и участники. Хочешь не хочешь, но + - некая объективность имеется. Не получилось в этот раз, старайся дальше. Оно так работает.

mwDeus, FT, Ладно деус каноничный, но фт, мужик, еб***й стыд

FT, "the five-year-old quite seriously uses arguments like “you’re just blind,” at the start of discussions and not understanding why after this they call him an asshole."

https://i.imgur.com/Dk2QGQG.png

mwDeus, aww look at the old man trying to make a meme
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mwDeus написал(а):
You so short-minded that instead of passing by when someone criticizes your work, you get offended and start getting personal, and cry like a child, instead of, at last, giving arguments on the essence of what was said and not about person.

"You're the one dissecting the technical aspects and being completely non-objective. Then you start crying, using bad words, and trying to look cool creating a meme, The real meme is you.

FT, https://i.imgur.com/TlMzBQI.png

You so short-minded that instead of passing by when someone criticizes your work, you get offended and start getting personal, and cry like a child, instead of, at last, giving arguments on the essence of what was said and not about person.

The thesis was that there is no need to drag “professional achievements” into such disputes, and not that someone is cooler than you. Didn't you get it?

mwDeus, I'm not the one insulting cause his brain is too short to thing in another words.

FT, Don't cry, honey.

mwDeus написал(а):

No, you didn't understand.

You're an asshole trying to constantly appeal to your own experience, I just showed you that these arguments don't make any fucking sense.---------
And so again you start this stupid game of "Achievements". "I won awards in a competition with two half-dead competitors last year".

Is it a big achievement to win a competition on a site where out of literally two thousand active users there are only 50 left?


And what? what the fuck is the point? You are now making yourself an even bigger poser than I could ever allow myself to be. All this pride in the pile of unwatchable crap in the section for beginners, pride in the “content” produced on an amateur forum.

What kind of nonsense is this?

As AMV editor I took my last nomination in a year when you wouldn’t even be on the shortlist, I repeat - stop this degenerative ad hominem.

You're just a closed-minded person. Look how my comments have left in evidence the poor class and lack of culture you have. Very humble of you to say the things you did about this page.

Show something of yours, if you dare. If you have the intellect to withstand criticism, show an AMV you made. Your words seem as empty as your brain; there is nothing more than hateful comments in your "opinions." Is that what you teach to your students, what a good teacher.

FT написал(а):
mwDeus, Yeah, I get the point

No, you didn't understand.

You're an asshole trying to constantly appeal to your own experience, I just showed you that these arguments don't make any fucking sense.
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FT написал(а):
For your information, last year I won a category at this Con, and I have more recognitions under my belt. What have you achieved? As an AMV editor I ask, this is the topic at the end.

And so again you start this stupid game of "Achievements". "I won awards in a competition with two half-dead competitors last year".

Is it a big achievement to win a competition on a site where out of literally two thousand active users there are only 50 left?

FT написал(а):
For your information, last year I won a category at this Con, and I have more recognitions under my belt. What have you achieved? As an AMV editor I ask, this is the topic at the end.

And what? what the fuck is the point? You are now making yourself an even bigger poser than I could ever allow myself to be. All this pride in the pile of unwatchable crap in the section for beginners, pride in the “content” produced on an amateur forum.

What kind of nonsense is this?

As the editor of AMV, I received my last nomination that year, in which, due to competition, you would not even be included in the shortlist. I repeat - stop this degenerative ad hominem stream.

mwDeus, Yeah, I get the point—you’re old and you have more experience, but I'm young and in AMV competitions, which is the main theme here, I have done more than you, even though you started editing six years before I was born. Let me congratulate you for being that old.

By the way, your opinion doesn’t have any impact. As you said, this is an amateur competition, and if this were professional, I’m sure yours would be one of those rare and toxic commentary that no one cares about.

For your information, last year I won a category at this Con, and I have more recognitions under my belt. What have you achieved? As an AMV editor I ask, this is the topic at the end.

If you want to debate about competing in a real cinematography competition, yeah, maybe you have more experience, but I’m younger, and it’s only a matter of time until I start getting involved in them. Have you received a nomination in Berlin? An outstanding ovation at Cannes? You talk like an oscar winner but your words have no backrest.

I want to clarify that I’m responding to you with the same respect you showed me, so there is nothing against other people here. I respect AMV news and the Russian's, but you sir, reflect your lack of class in the comments.

ScorpionsUltd Whisper Of The Beast is a great classic, and masterpiece of AMVs, please don't compare my one month editing (with many breaks) video with it, there is no sense.

I'm Humble, with the Humbles, I give what people give to me. So give some respect and get the same, cause talking with you is going nowhere. At the end the art is subjetive in its form (Non its technique)

FT, No one owes nothing to nobody.

Your audience rated you work as 3.5 points, and you didn’t even get into the top five on one of the weakest BK. This is reality.

Just like the fact that education does not matter at all in an amateur online competition. And you committed a great stupidity by starting to appeal to this without using any other theses.

FT написал(а):
, but unfortunately, this is a contest, and you should evaluate the technique.

I don’t understand, is it hard for you to read or what? I rated your work professionally - mediocre. You're making an "Alternate" story with mediocre synchronization and shitty color correction 20 FCN YEARS after the work of ScorpionsUltd Whisper Of The Beast and you make it literally worse and completely bland, what are you hoping for?

Unfortunately FOR YOU, your work was not appreciated at this competition. Humble yourself.

FT написал(а):
As for the audience, let me clarify: my audience is probably bigger than yours and understands the concept and storytelling easily. Maybe you have some attention problems, who knows.

No, let me explain to you - I started making videos six years after you were born. I have more activity under ONE clip than under all your works that not from the section for beginners.

And of the two of us, only I have so far participated not only in amateur competitions, but also in professional ones too.

Therefore, please, stop using this crappy ad hominem, dud. Imagine if I started the conversation with this?

This is so childish, I even once had a conversation with one of my students (I ask them to make clips in editing lessons) “You are wrong, because my friends understood the plot” - yes, you little fool can boast of this in front of your Mom, save me from this crap.
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Strannick610 написал(а):
(это современный практикующий режиссёр, а не старый пердун насмотревшийся Тарковского, между прочим 3-х часовой черно-белый фильм о Андрее Рублёва смотрится увлекательней чем супергеройское кинцо от Марвел).

Это современный практикующий режиссёр говорит вообще про другое, про то что никак со мной не спорит, и если ты меня спросишь, то я тебе так-же скажу.

Он говорит о том, что если режик снимает кино для себя, чтобы сделать высказывание, которое, по его мнению важно, то, естественно, желания зрителя в той или иной степени уходят на второй план.

Чё он говорит? Ты хоть слышал?

"Зритель не должен иметь значение в том смысле в котором это ограничивает художника в полноте высказывания, если художник заинтерисован в том, чтобы донести до зрителя мысль честно он чувствами зрителя руководствоваться не должен... Это то что отличает коммерчаское кино, пытается угадать желание зрителя в основной своей массе... авторское кино такой цели сбебе не ставит..."

Но тогда чаще всего ты забываешь про популярность и остаёшься просто режем не для всех.

Причём там сидит Кантемир и честно говорит, что ему зритель нахер не упёрся.

Я тесноту Кантемира разбирал ещё во ВГИКе со своим мастером, это чисто фестивальное кино, как-раз для тех кому Тарковский дороже жизни. Хочешь в таком духе вести разговор? Ок. Тогда не понятно причём тут объективность.

И не понятно как у вас двоих в голове уживается вот эта вот херня:

FT написал(а):
Maybe you're one of those indie fans who criticize the industry,

Ведь это аргументы буквально укурков-иньди мейкеров. Коим и Быков и Балагов, безусловно, являются.

FT написал(а):
I can understand now why you are just a teacher.

А с каких собственно пор, учителем стало быть зазорно или плохо?о.о

mwDeus написал(а):
Films are made for the audience, if your audience does not understand you, then it is not he who is not ready, but you just did a bad job as a director. This is the basis, this is the rule.

Или не должен - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhrXxyGg1zU (это современный практикующий режиссёр, а не старый пердун насмотревшийся Тарковского, между прочим 3-х часовой черно-белый фильм о Андрее Рублёва смотрится увлекательней чем супергеройское кинцо от Марвел).

mwDeus, I agree with you from the viewer's perspective, but unfortunately, this is a contest, and you should evaluate the technique. Cinema is meant to be cinematic. Maybe you're one of those indie fans who criticize the industry, so I can understand now why you are just a teacher.

"Films are made for the audience" Yes, of course, but again, this is a contest. Here, you should be objective. As for the audience, let me clarify: my audience is probably bigger than yours and understands the concept and storytelling easily. Maybe you have some attention problems, who knows.

Грац всех победителей! И напутствия всем остальным авторам в будущих конах!

Кон слабоват по мне оказался, очень попахивало тенденциями тик-тока с клипами протяженностью 2 минуты лишь бы в минимальную длину успеть. Но! Очень порадовало что вернулись несколько наших ребят с новыми работами, за Альтера особенно порадовался, порвал фан без конкуренции (Скорп, ну ты че, проголосовать даже не мог что штрафы словил?? )!

Все няшки, не ругайтесь в коментариях^^ Особенно с Буржуями, у них тоже идет видимое вымирание амв как движения, даже сильнее чем у нас

FT написал(а):
I think you're blind then, you can say you don't like my work, but if you don't notice the cinematographic style youre wrong.

as a viewer I dont give a supernano fuck about cinematographic style of you work because its made for mental masturbation and not for the audience.

Do you think anyone is really interested in once again watching the most banal story, also with a template narrative and mediocre synchronization? For the thousandth time already?

I’m almost 30 years old, over all these years I’ve seen such stories, I won’t lie, thousands, literally my student is now doing a similar story for his diploma, which I’m not delighted with.

The cinematic style has long been neither an advantage nor even something unusual.

you did everything to make the story understandable, yes, but you literally did nothing to make it engaging. This is why you are in 8th place, and the penguin is in first, although you made approximately the same edits with compositing.

FT написал(а):
About the Plot, is simple as following the visuals, and about more, cinmeatography is not only a plot, you said youre a director, well a director must know, is about the exeqution not just the plot, for example "Interestelar" plot is complicated compared with the "The Godfather" one, but the godfather is a best movie cause its cinematography itself. but maybe "The Godfather" is also banal for you.

I am against formalism in cinema. Do you know what formalism is? If for three hours you show me just a “Stylish”, “Cinematic” canvas, devoid of any interesting plot or action, then I will become bored in the first hour, by the second I will want to leave the hall, and by the third I will want to kill the director.

I don’t know why you cited these two films as an example - whether you were told about this at a lecture or something else. But this is highly speculative.

It’s like in Russia now everyone compares new cinema with Tarkovsky and literally shits with rainbows and tries to present the matter in such a way that literally nothing can hold a candle to Tarkovsky. In fact, we are talking about the prejudice of a bunch of old farts who are not able to perceive new cinema simply because of their sense of self-importance.

Films are made for the audience, if your audience does not understand you, then it is not he who is not ready, but you just did a bad job as a director. This is the basis, this is the rule.

Basically, your job as a director is not to make it “Cinematic”, but to simply tell the story well and interestingly, that’s what they hire you for. Everything else is mental masturbation, and the director’s attempt to pull the blanket over himself, presenting everything as if art itself is essential. But this is not true, art is subjective and some will find the godfather magical, while others will consider him boring crap, show it to a person who is not immersed in the context and he will tell you that the film is just empty, or will not even understand what it is about because "Art" is not essential itself in a philosophical sense.

mwDeus написал(а):

I will say more conservatively so as not to fall under moderation.

Here, you’re not the only one who has an education, I actually graduated from the director’s degree a long time ago and am already teaching students myself. Perhaps you yourself could be my student.

You cannot teach anyone anything, because you yourself are still doing very banal things. If you compare your plot and storytelling, it is indistinguishable from my students.

And just if I have to choose between a banal story clip and a good spinal cord cut without meaning, then I would rather choose a technical cut. So the places were distributed quite fairly.

And I don’t understand DiDox claims, because his action just came out even more banal and insipid, just a mess.

For me, everything turned out quite objective.

I think you're blind then, you can say you don't like my work, but if you don't notice the cinematographic style youre wrong.

About the Plot, is simple as following the visuals, and about more, cinmeatography is not only a plot, you said youre a director, well a director must know, is about the exeqution not just the plot, for example "Interestelar" plot is complicated compared with the "The Godfather" one, but the godfather is a best movie cause its cinematography itself. but maybe "The Godfather" is also banal for you.